tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post8456188588380590577..comments2023-06-07T15:46:45.579+03:00Comments on Gaia's Echo: Things I want to sayirit dulmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13041617361425464089noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-19067975474559137622019-04-01T19:02:34.347+03:002019-04-01T19:02:34.347+03:00Je suis impatient de découvrir votre travail à Mon...Je suis impatient de découvrir votre travail à Montbrun-Bocage (Google translate) אני מצפה לגלות את העבודה שלך Montbrun-Bocage. וינסנט.A130https://www.blogger.com/profile/14700005716437766636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-76700908448425514492019-01-02T16:58:44.859+02:002019-01-02T16:58:44.859+02:00Hello my name Dyah from Indonesia, Thank you for s...Hello my name Dyah from Indonesia, Thank you for sharing Irit. HD.ecocreationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03436755691202420892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-82296948027533855702018-05-01T12:48:59.457+03:002018-05-01T12:48:59.457+03:00הי אירית, הגעתי לפה סוף סוף. אני קוראת את הדברים ש...הי אירית, הגעתי לפה סוף סוף. אני קוראת את הדברים שכתבת ואני שוב רואה כמה מחקר את משקיעה בעבודה שלך ומחשבה מעמיקה לפני שיוצאת ממך מילה. לתת כבוד לאחר זה משהו שאנשים שוכחים, לצערי רואים את זה בעיסוק הזה הרבה מאד. אני חושבת שללמוד ממך זו מתנה שאנשים צריכים להעניק לעצמם, ולכבד את עצמם ואותך. אמנם אני מוסיפה תגובה הרבה זמן אחרי שכתבת את הפוסט הזה אבל לעולם לא מאוחר לומר כמה אני מעריכה את העבודה שאת עושה, מביטה בפליאה והערכה בעבודה הדידקטית ושמחה כל כך על ההשראה ובראש על הנדיבות שלך. ככה פשוט, נדיבות. תודה רבה. הפוסט הזה מצוין וחשוב! Betty Eilathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10752288244521582037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-43692470180369417382018-04-25T03:06:40.403+03:002018-04-25T03:06:40.403+03:00Dear Irit, thank you for so generously sharing you...Dear Irit, thank you for so generously sharing your creative journey. I congratulate you for leading the way, the hard slog of experimentation, creating such stunning works and raising debate about artists’ moral rights. I support your call for respect and quote you: "..... taking the entire scope of the work … rolling it down into a formula and sharing it on social media …. is a sin to the truth in my opinion ........." This is NOT ONLY a Sin and lack of respect, it is ILLEGAL. Unfortunately, the web has good and not so good capacity - but always its people who use it, who exercise this intent, and sometimes the ‘public’ just doesn’t know. <br /><br />People entering workshops that I conduct (indigo, shibori, eucalyptus dyeing) are always invited into a discussion about IP and moral rights - I make sure that they are aware that my own work has come at the expense (and joy) of years of hard professional work, and I ask for their respect. <br /><br />So I support your call to ".....establish a more ethical and respectful dialogue in this community.....create more ethical codes and conventions" <br />How to go about it ?.... maybe a strong statement on every post, a strong statement before every class, and an increase in blogs and dialogue such as the one you have made here. <br />You give me inspiration to start blogging .. always intend to but don’t allocate the time over creative time. <br /><br />Regarding A CODE - in Australia - NAVA - The National Association of Visual Arts - has published a Code of Practice <br /> "COPYRIGHT gives rights that are legally enforceable, and a failure to observe proper procedure may have legal consequences." <br /> INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY "The term ‘intellectual property’ or ‘IP’ refers to the property rights that arise in the outcomes of creative and intellectual processes, such as artworks, designs and inventions. These rights are legal tools that practitioners can use to protect their work from unauthorised use, build and protect their reputation or brand, and generate income. …." <br />MORAL RIGHTS " a creator has the right:<br />•to be attributed<br />•not to have work falsely attributed; and<br />•to have the integrity of his or her work respected<br />(that is, not to have the work subjected to derogatory treatment)... •Practitioners have the legal right to expect that their moral rights will be respected. This should be respected by all with whom practitioners have dealings.<br />•Practitioners should only consent to uses of their work which would otherwise infringe their moral rights if they have assessed it is in their interests to do so or that it is reasonable in all circumstances." There is an International element to this enforcable code too. <br /><br />NAVA suggests that making it clear when talking to people that the conversation is confidential “… asking people being let into secrets to sign a confidentiality agreement & marking documents and correspondence ‘confidential.”<br /><br />With this in mind, we as artists, teachers and workshop leaders might be advised to include discussion or a cover note at each workshop. Perhaps an invitation to participants that if they don't wish to adhere to this agreement (and after all they have entered an informal contract to attend your workshop) then they are free to leave now and have 50% of their fee returned to them! <br /><br />My own processes too have come from extensive experimentation, I came across my discoveries quite independently of India Flint. I called my process Leaf Embossing – I actually don’t teach it, I suggest that those who are curious explore their own ways, in the interest of individuality. I know of several other artists who were also individually exploring natural dyeing with the impressions of leaves - probably simultaneously to India's research, and before she published. <br /><br />India Flint has not only contributed to the inspiration of many people but also, much to the debate about moral rights. <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00886436556818777251noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-2171768195575134022018-03-29T14:17:29.994+03:002018-03-29T14:17:29.994+03:00I am blown away! I had no idea that all of this wa...I am blown away! I had no idea that all of this was possible with natural dyes! YOu are an artist and a pioneer. I do agree that you should have received credit for the discovery of the technique from people teaching or sharing. Jackiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11545713753520362397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-74210763731443362982018-03-17T17:27:21.225+02:002018-03-17T17:27:21.225+02:00At last Irit
These things need to be said
You brav...At last Irit<br />These things need to be said<br />You brave beautiful womanYvettehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12138424562030321140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-39292111496493058482018-03-10T15:27:03.816+02:002018-03-10T15:27:03.816+02:00Thank you dear Irit for this Post, it is very inte...Thank you dear Irit for this Post, it is very interesting and important. One year ago I was able to realize my dream of being in a workshop with you. That time shared in La Paloma in March of 2017, was wonderful, both in learning, so much knowledge and a wonderful coexistence. I have not yet been able to develop everything you taught us, everything is fascinating and with much to discover, I will always be grateful.<br />On the other hand, your idea of the hastag and refer to your blog, I find it great and fair. It is the fruit of your effort. I will add it to the photos of my works that I have already published. I reiterate, for me, it was a privilege to be your student. Susana Susana Peñalozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03460827924215523553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-83005230512593891072018-03-01T19:10:45.611+02:002018-03-01T19:10:45.611+02:00תודה רמה ומקווה שיצא להיפגש מתי שהואתודה רמה ומקווה שיצא להיפגש מתי שהואirit dulmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13041617361425464089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-91636302153977943632018-03-01T19:08:37.392+02:002018-03-01T19:08:37.392+02:00Thank youThank youirit dulmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13041617361425464089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-17480162846090980622018-02-28T21:01:06.098+02:002018-02-28T21:01:06.098+02:00Dear Irit
thanks for the inspiration that u bring ...Dear Irit<br />thanks for the inspiration that u bring to the world and to me... your percevirence durance and kind are glorify. have nice days and years. Regards Rama AmirRamushhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07889331412002668853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-30913915348969769182018-01-17T20:50:54.373+02:002018-01-17T20:50:54.373+02:00הי בטי, תודה על המילים החמות. רק עכשיו ראיתי את הת...הי בטי, תודה על המילים החמות. רק עכשיו ראיתי את התגובה שלך אז סליחה על האיחור בתגובה שלי. הרבה זמן כל זה ישב עלי ומאז הפוסט הזה אני מרגישה משוחררת ושלמה. כמובן שאמשיך בדרכי כי זאת דרכי ואין לי אחרת. חשוב לי שהעבודה שלי תהיה מקורית ולמדתי עם השנים שאני באופן טבעי משתנה ומתפתחת ולא עונדת במקום. זה מה שאני ואני שמחה עם זה. אחרים אם ירצו יעשו את חשבון הנפש שלהם. לא לכולם חשוב להיות מקוריים וגם זה בסדר :) כן מקווה שיצא להיפגש בקרוב.irit dulmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13041617361425464089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-4768354679108209422018-01-17T20:41:41.079+02:002018-01-17T20:41:41.079+02:00Hi Laura, Thank you for your comment. It would be ...Hi Laura, Thank you for your comment. It would be nice to know which whom I'm speaking but I can't recognize you here in blogger. I absolutely agree with you. I just don't think techniques are been created only to be a technique. They are born out of art work. So when people take them just as technique they are actually turn them into an empty vassal and lifeless. This was exactly my point.irit dulmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13041617361425464089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-13100517460843049652018-01-15T18:54:19.743+02:002018-01-15T18:54:19.743+02:00Hi Irit, I got to your words just now as I heard a...Hi Irit, I got to your words just now as I heard about it from one of my students. Although I can deeply relate to your fustration, I want to point out something I wrote before to Idia Flint when she brought up the same topics - there is a difference between art and technique. These days when the knowledge is open and free it is almost impossible to control it. I think that while technique is easy to teach and to copy, art is a more intimate aspect that has to do with self expression.<br />From my experience even though I am passing all my knowledge to my students, only few of them can take it to a personal level and create original work.<br />So - I think that learnig ecoprint is just a tool that helps finding the original path. laurahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13540283192666252913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-17343736255134296632017-11-22T01:02:40.578+02:002017-11-22T01:02:40.578+02:00הי אירית, קצת קשה לכתוב בטלפון אבל אנסה בכ"ז....הי אירית, קצת קשה לכתוב בטלפון אבל אנסה בכ"ז. הגעתי לכתוב פה במקרה ואני שמחה לקרוא מה שכתבת. אני כל כך מבינה את התסכול הזה ולא פעם ראשונה שאני פוגשת בהעתקות וניכוס של אינפורמציה וידע ללא מתן הגון והוגן של קרדיט. זה כנראה גם יימשך הלאה כי תמיד יהיו אלה שינודו בראשם וימשיכו להעתיק, כי לא לכל אחד יש היכולת לפתח טכניקה באופן מעמיק וחוקר כמוך. בצילומים, היפים מאד כשלעצמם, רואים כמה עבודה ומאמץ השקעת. אני חייבת להודות שכמנהלת קבוצת הדפס טבעי מעולם לא חשבתי על הפן הזה. תמיד חשבתי שכולנו כאן כדי ללמוד אחד <br /> מהשני. זה נאמר לפני שנים כשהקבוצה נפתחה ואנשים התלהבו ורצו גם. לפחות בקבוצה הזאת אני יכולה לומר שהתלמידות שלך מכבדות את העבודה שלך ולא מעבירות את מה שלמדו אצלך. יש לך בהחלט את החותם שלך ודרך העבודה ה מסויימת שאפשר לזהות אותה בתוך ים החיקויים... תמשיכי בעבודה הנהדרת שלך ומקווה להפגש בקרוב! הBetty Eilathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10752288244521582037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-49450287325299426992017-11-09T12:52:59.207+02:002017-11-09T12:52:59.207+02:00Thank you for your generosity and beautiful work I...Thank you for your generosity and beautiful work I will read again I agree with all you said Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09412388764507635527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-64531029527499939572017-10-23T18:33:27.640+03:002017-10-23T18:33:27.640+03:00thank you for taking the time to say all this - i ...thank you for taking the time to say all this - i really hope that it influences people to treat the work and creativity of others with more respect - i am so grateful for the generosity of textile artists of all sorts, there is a giving ethos within this community which quite is overwhelming at times - in a world where knowledge is used as a tool for power and control i deeply appreciate this loving and giving fabric of life - Fabienne D-R and Jenny Leslie sign-posted me here and i will send others stickyfingershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15436162668495166095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-2330716288972385182017-10-05T07:28:06.174+03:002017-10-05T07:28:06.174+03:00Thank you Diane, your hard work is proving itself ...Thank you Diane, your hard work is proving itself and it looks wonderful. Hope we see each other again.irit dulmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13041617361425464089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-84488998574547614362017-10-04T16:31:16.258+03:002017-10-04T16:31:16.258+03:00Irit, thank you for sharing your thoughts, your cr...Irit, thank you for sharing your thoughts, your creative journey, and info about your latest technique - gorgeous results! Well said. I took your class on Whidbey Island last summer on combining natural dyes with eco printing and learned so much. I'm still integrating what I learned into my own work, and "branching out" to dyeing with my local plants. I've also experimented a bit with reversing the iron and tannin dips, since the iron blankets are the ones that end up with the nice vein details... I hope to take another class with you sometime. And yes I agree that it's important to credit artists like you who put so much time, research and creative energy into developing new techniques that the rest of us benefit from. Sometimes people just need a reminder (The #3DPrintRD hashtag is a great idea.) Diane Ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07100473825226886516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-49904351298535488622017-10-04T13:50:58.089+03:002017-10-04T13:50:58.089+03:00thanks again :)thanks again :)irit dulmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13041617361425464089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-81508095344957181532017-10-04T13:50:11.272+03:002017-10-04T13:50:11.272+03:00Thank you Connie From Whidbey. Happy to meet you h...Thank you Connie From Whidbey. Happy to meet you here.irit dulmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13041617361425464089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-6922054379467900952017-10-04T13:49:08.354+03:002017-10-04T13:49:08.354+03:00Thank you CarolineThank you Carolineirit dulmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13041617361425464089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-36344485846064567082017-10-04T13:48:09.047+03:002017-10-04T13:48:09.047+03:00Thank you StephaneyThank you Stephaneyirit dulmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13041617361425464089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-87051043143264806572017-10-04T13:47:30.586+03:002017-10-04T13:47:30.586+03:00Thank you Terriea. Looking forward to spend time t...Thank you Terriea. Looking forward to spend time together again.irit dulmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13041617361425464089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-26627719203904918462017-10-04T13:46:26.299+03:002017-10-04T13:46:26.299+03:00Thank you!Thank you!irit dulmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13041617361425464089noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2687720253540768832.post-45912872167656505522017-10-04T01:35:56.155+03:002017-10-04T01:35:56.155+03:00Thank you for you hard work and generosity. I woul...Thank you for you hard work and generosity. I would like to try to go to the Florida workshop. Can you tell me where I can find out about registration? Thank youAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13628617874718258971noreply@blogger.com